And So It Goes

Since I did the post on Amanda Todd, the young woman who killed herself after being “bullied” for years, I have done a lot of surfing. That issue came up again, but in a little stranger place and, kinda, caught me off-guard.

So, I am surfing. I am, actually, reading new posts and trying to get a handle on the fact that I started following a whole lot of people that I didn’t mean to and am working on fixing that situation. If I follow you, I try to read all your posts and, in some way, let you know I did. But I can’t follow 137 posts and I know it, so just know that, if I stop following you and I have been for several months, let me know – I can fix that if I know.

OK, back to the article.

I was reading The Scarlett Heartt‘s post for today.  To the right side was listed some articles.  I decided to read this one: Porn producers threaten to flee LA over condom rule .

When I read that the porn industry does over a billion dollars a year of business in that county, I was a little amazed.  I decided to try a post concerned with how this amount, though small in many respects, is measurable against our country’s national debt (Yeah, about 1,200 years of that income would clear it if we don’t increase it again).

Sorry for the pic, but thought you should kinda “see” what I am talking about.

Reading that article, begged the reading of this one: Girl Power Eroded by Cheap and Smutty Schoolgirl Photos .  Now, that one would’ve made a decent article (“decent” taking on a, perhaps, different meaning here), but I started reading the comments (as there were 211)

As I read through them, I was irreverently struck by the idea that so many people out there have little or no feelings for how “kids” are being treated.  Then, the article topped it off with a reference to Amanda Todd.  That got my attention and my article here was born.

I would encourage you to read the three links above and start reading the 210 comments.  See if you don’t get inflamed by the callousness used there.

Now, I will state that, when a person turns 18 (in the US), then their decisions (Unless a mental problem exists) are law-abiding and should not be considered “underage”.  However, so many of these comments were firing insults and harsh tones at the younger ladies (14 or so) who made the mistake of going into a bar while underage and drinking, then making choices (flashing), getting their pictures taken this way, and those pictures finding their way onto Facebook and other sites.

Underage means not old enough to make clear, good choices.  A lot of people forget that the US lowered that mark from 21 to 18 in the last 40 years.  All of a sudden people who had been “kids” were automatically adults.  Do you remember being 14?  That’s usually about 8th grade.  Did your decisions all make sense back then in the context of the world?  I trusted people I shouldn’t have trusted.  I got angry with people I shouldn’t have gotten angry with.  I made all kinds of mistakes.

So, my simple, humble opinion is that a 14 year old can’t make a good solid decision to stay out of a nightclub and can’t make a good solid decision to not drink once in there.  So, if they want popularity and to feel, temporarily, good about themselves, how can they make a good solid decision, while drinking, to not flash a little for someone who is complimenting them highly?  Then, they wake up the next day and soon find they did these things and want them to be deleted.

Why not?

They should not have been done in the first place.  There was no consent signed and, even though it was a public business, if they were going to pose a little compromisingly, the owner (ah, an adult) should have been the one to make certain he had both permission and legal rights (id) to post those pics.

I am not totally disagreeing with everything  said in the comments.  What I am saying is that we, as adults, have this tendency to either treat young adults (18-23) as children or to tread kids (12-17) as adults.  Neither of these is correct and will lead to problems.  I bring back in Amanda Todd here as a prime example.

Many of the comments told readers that the girls needed to “grow up“…right, precisely my point.



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  • susielindau  On November 12, 2012 at 10:54 am

    it is scary to think about the internet as a dangerous weapon when used improperly by underaged kids. So sad….


    • kindredspirit23  On November 12, 2012 at 11:16 am

      Yes, and it can be a worse weapon when wielded by someone who knows truly how to use it.
      Of course, it can be such a wonderful instrument of love and peace if so handled, too.


  • Bri King  On November 12, 2012 at 8:53 am

    Consent is a very interesting issue. I agree that 14 year olds in general are often unable to make good choices in a lot of areas and it is because their brains simply aren’t properly developed in lot of areas until they are older. Adolescence isn’t just a time of physical development, there is a great deal of emotional and mental development happening too. Bullying is an issue close to my heart. I will probably post on that sometime soon.

    Thanks for following my blog!


    • kindredspirit23  On November 12, 2012 at 11:11 am

      You are welcome. You know, even if 14 year olds could, normally, make sound mature decisions, the law says they can’t. One of the issues most of the commenters (almost all male) didn’t seem to see.


  • Enchanted Seashells  On November 12, 2012 at 1:00 am

    Poor kids, girl AND boys. It’s all just so simple to me. A wanted and loved child will be nurtured and empowered to make (mostly) positive life choices. Just sad, sad, sad. And it makes me mad. Childhood should be full of freedom to learn, be curious, explore, learn about oneself in safe ways. Oh, I could go on and on. I really enjoyed reading your thoughts!!


  • buckwheatsrisk  On November 12, 2012 at 12:27 am

    i couldn’t read all of this truth be told, it was just too hard, but the little bit i did read is very sad.


    • kindredspirit23  On November 12, 2012 at 1:20 am

      Yes, it is sad. And, I understand how difficult it could be for you to read.


      • buckwheatsrisk  On November 12, 2012 at 1:21 am

        thank you Scott! hey when’s the wedding?


        • kindredspirit23  On November 12, 2012 at 1:23 am

          Wedding was Friday. All went well. As soon as I recover, I will try to post pics. Have a video. Might do that. It would be quicker.


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